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2023 1124 – LIFE180 / Chris Kirkpatrick – Indexed Universal Life (IUL) 101 Reaction – [FFL]
- Ethos
- 4 – cash flow – coi – 1 premiums – 2 buckets
- Chris – art – term insurance – 50s-60s-70s- coi skyrockets
- 7 – As long as you pay you premium
- 8 – Whole vs IUL – IUL is not a Whole Life Product
- 8 – cash value bucket – 1)
- 9 – FFL – most iuls are being purchased as an investment
- 10 – Chris / FFL – Minimum Premium, Minimum Funding, Target, Guideline Level Premium, Expectations – Target = Agent Commissions, Overfunding the Target Premium, Annuities vs IUL, same / different, Policy Performance, Levers, company’s obligations to policyholders / shareholders [Bonk: Dinallo], Underperformance, Illustrations, You can’t lose money in the IUL. Yes, you can. not compliant, caps, uncapped,
- 11 – IUL vs Indexed Annuity
- 12 – Obligations of company – Mutual vs Stock
- 13 – You can’t Lose Money in an IUL
- 15 – Chris – [Bonk: P1P2] – How IUl’s Work –
- Caps, Options
- 19 – Chris – People aren’t going to know that they have a problem until it’s too late.
- 20 – Can’t lose money on down years – Ex.
- Loans –
- 21 – Chris – Need to add in all the fees, cois
- 15 – Chris – How IUL’s Work.
- 19 – Chris – the challenge for people / retirees will come in 20-25 years.
- 20 – can’t lose. no gain, no loss. just even.
- Chris – loans are the problem
- 23 – locking in gains
- 24 – Chris – Performance, Long-term, doesn’t know what she doesn’t know. I used think how she thinks, I used to believe what she believes. Representing a lie. representing big IUL company.
- 25 – Chris – These guys know nothing about Whole Life Insurance.
- 26 – Guy – Can’t lose money. Tax-free Retirement. Confuse clients. tax bill. taxes.
- 26 – FFL – most IUl’s are sold for retirement.
- 27 – Chris – Wheels fall of using for retirement.
- 28 – FFL – Loophole = Policy Loan
- 28 – Chris – it’s not a loophole, it’s the tax code, mislead people
- 30 – FFL – Policy loan arbitrage,
- 30 – Chris – Ethos – Express Issue Policy – Ameritas, car to win, higher coi,
- 32 – ffl – iuls built to self sustain
- 32 – Chris – ag49 – multipliers, PacLife, lawsuits, illustration warfare,FBI, Vapone, actuaries poke holes in regulation, realistic, unrealistic illustrations, history of iul, sad to see,
- fold like origami – [Bonk: walker vs lsw – defects], too simplistic, [Bonk: Tom Sutton, Pacific Life] – gov
- 35 – don’t pay back loans / death – arbitrage
- 36 – language – too simple –
- 37 – LIRP Example –
- 38 – Chris – age 75 – loans / taxes / “properly structured” – are they dumb, naive, intentionally selling it, borderline criminal,
- 40 – ffl – cash value pays for the death benefit – don’t get cash value – [Bonk: SIV / CIV]
- 41 – Simple – College Funding – screaming home run,
- 43 – Chris – sold as simplistic, marketing of IUL, replacing 401ks, the blind leading the blind,
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